How to fish.

白马西北驰

[I confess that I am kidding in the title of this post. But in some senses, it implies something serious. Please read my essay and think twice.]

　

It is better to teach someone how to fish than just to give him a fish


Once upon a time, there was a man who was so poor that he could not afford to get enough food. A rich man met him and wanted to do something so as to show generosity. He ordered one of his servants to buy the poor man a big fish. But the poor man refused this proposal and he said: “Give me a fish and I’ll eat for a day; teach me how to fish and I’ll eat for a life-time.” The rich man agreed with him and found a fisherman to teach him the skill of fishing. The poor man learned diligently and became a successful fisherman and led a satisfactory life from then on.

This fable may make sense from two perspectives. On the one hand, if a person is in a poor condition in his life or career, he ought to make it clear that he may learn the necessary skill and choose right way to improve his condition, but not ask for pity and help from those in power. On the other hand, if a person is of the ability to help others, he may give those who need help the chance to learn, to promote, to get out of the predicament by their own strength.

In this sense, we, who are gathering in readfree, all can learn from this fable, no matter whether you are senior member or layman. If you are not satisfied with your wealth, reputation, or chance to get resource, you should be patient and ready to learn, but not complain and nag the managers to help. Chance is always somewhere, but it is only for those who are ready. As to those in power, the better way to enhance the building and appeal of the symposium is to cultivate more able members.

yjj543000

I agree what white-horse have mentioned above in his essay. Sometimes we do need others' help , but if we learn to be helper, I think , it is better and more beneficial to yourself and those who also need help.

redcity

一篇富有哲理的文章。联系读书园地等大多数学术论坛成员的思想现状做出了分析。
只是觉得语句还不够通顺，用了太多的and.读起来有点不那么老到。不过楼住花了大量的时间来敲键盘也难得了。


'if a person is of the ability to help others, '？？

白马西北驰

Thank you for the valuable comments.

As for the expression "be of ablitity to help", an entity in LDOCE may be taken as a reference:

ability:
of high/low/average ability
students of average ability

But I am not sure if my expression is natural to a native speaker. Thank you for indicating my defect.

白马西北驰

反复试验，无法解决行未跨行单词被“腰斩”的问题，用dreamedit也不行。

这个真的很头疼啊，好像无法判断会在何处腰斩，所以也没法在正确的地方用上连字符。

我看到其他书友的英语帖子中也有这个问题，不知道有没有好的办法来解决一下？

freddymusic

There are only two types of aircraft—fighters and targets.

               Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC Fighter Pilot

zhanghe0802

Absolutely right.  We should learn how to live independently. If we want to eat fish,but there is no fish severd by others, then we
have no fish. So it is necessary to learn how to fish.

We should learn and work hard to assure we have fish eveyday.

macauor

To 白马西北驰,

   Your English expression is very, very good ! Please share more with us.

白马西北驰

Thank you. I am highly honoured.

macauor

Revise the first part

Once upon a time, there was a man who was too poor to afford enough food for himself. One day, a rich man met him and wanted to give him some help, in order to show generosity. He let his servant to buy the poor man a big fish. However, the poor man refused this proposal and said: "Give me fish and I will eat it in a day; teach me how to fish and I will rely on it for my whole life time." The rich man nodded with him and found a fisher man to teach him the fishing skill. The poor man learned diligently and then became a skilled fisherman. From then on the poor man lived a satisfactory life.

白马西北驰

Sensible rivision! I am ready to learn from your professional advice.

resonance

挑刺，继续挑刺。以下个人意见，仅供参考。

But in some senses, it implies something serious.

1、老兄不觉得in some senses很不对路么？
首先这个sense在这是个单数，不可数。
第二作“意义”，而非“感觉、感官”解释的时候，in是后置的。

It is better to teach someone how to fish ...

2、teach这词是否有点生硬？用tell似乎更人性化一点？

Once upon a time, there was a man who was so poor that he could not afford to get enough food.

3、直接说poor man不好么？绕来绕去，读者感觉不爽。

A rich man met him and wanted to do something so as to show generosity.

4、这句话没问题，问题在上一句，两句一个so that, 一个so as to，视觉疲劳阿。而且这句话这么一说让人感觉在说反话。

He ordered one of his servants to buy the poor man a big fish. But the poor man refused this proposal and he said:

5、你前面说是order,虽然不是对要饭的说的，但是后面用proposal也不恰当了。自相矛盾阿。这个时候是不是就是用offer的时候了？

resonance

2楼大概和我是一个意思，主要明明可以很简单说的事就不要绕着弯子说
因为这个东西的读者对象的年纪就不会大
要尽量的简洁和生动活泼

回头再看看自己的关于teach用tell的想法可能也不好。

resonance

On the one hand,

6、on one hand.......on the other hand......

if a person is in a poor condition in his life or career

7、career不与in搭配，除非是career in.......


楼主问题一箩.............
先吃饭，待会继续挑刺

白马西北驰

呵呵，很高兴看到你这勤劳的小蜜蜂又出现在我眼前。很喜欢你这种敏锐的风格。

容我为自己申辩一下，好么？

看看你喜欢查的LDOCE:

1. on the one hand:
on the other hand also on the one hand. .. on the other hand used to give another opinion or fact that should be considered as well as the one you have just given:
I'd like to eat out, but on the other hand I should be trying to save money.
! Do not say 'on one hand'. Say on the one hand.

2.sense
[countable] a way in which something can be true or real
in a sense/in one sense/in some senses etc (=in one way, in some ways etc)

至于用法合不合适的问题，我则很原意听从你的意见。

一起学习，共同进步。

resonance

引用第14楼白马西北驰于2007-07-02 22:00发表的 :
呵呵，很高兴看到你这勤劳的小蜜蜂又出现在我眼前。很喜欢你这种敏锐的风格。

我也为自己申辩一下，好么？

看看你喜欢查的LDOCE:
1. on the one hand:
on the other hand also on the one hand. .. on the other hand used to give another opinion or fact that should be considered as well as the one you have just given:
I'd like to eat out, but on the other hand I should be trying to save money.
! Do not say 'on one hand'. Say on the one hand.

2.sense
[countable] a way in which something can be true or real
in a sense/in one sense/in some senses etc (=in one way, in some ways etc)

.......

1的问题我承认，重大失误在我。on one hand的用法不及on the one hand，不过也是对的。问题在于on the one hand本身存在一个特指的问题，在逻辑上本身有问题。
2的问题我想还是老兄的理解有问题，不多辩解。

另外，something serious的说法有问题，serious带有主观色彩，事物总是客观实在，只应该用basic或者essensial

resonance

choose right way

那么这个究竟怎么说，也是不可数？

taifunny

In China, a common and serious phenomena is that: students were taught the way to "fish", but all the students have never seen a real "fish", they would never know how a fish is like, this method of teaching is called "spoon-feed".

resonance

On the other hand, if a person is of the ability to help others, he may give those who need help the chance to learn, to promote, to get out of the predicament by their own strength.

像这个地方，我觉得也不是英语的问题，但是究竟是谁的力量使得这个人摆脱困境
这更多是个逻辑问题？你又要help，又要说是自己之力.

resonance

17楼的说法很有意思

楼主关于低威低财富的会员的说法我也支持，只是有的会员很恶心，发个资源贴一下加密超一百，最高时还弄个800，上千威望，太搞了，我一直对这种做法有意见。