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发表于 2007-4-13 18:55:55 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
林业不但是一项重要的社会公益事业,还是一顶重要的基础产业,承担着生态建设和林产品供给的重要任务,事关全面建设小康社会和可持续发展的战略全局,事关中华民族伟大复兴的长远大计。“以服务为宗旨,以就业为导向,培养具有较强实际动手能力和职业能力的技能型人才”,是职业教育办学的基本方针,大力开展职业教育实践教学体系建设是高职人才培养的基本途径。但目前此项工作尚存在着面上号召多、实际措施少,不同地区、不同行业、不同院校与专业的进展差距着不同差距。这里面的原因很多,当前突出的问题是实践教学体系建设理论研究滞后、典型经验不足、运行机制缺乏,由于政策、环境、资源等的限制,有关实践教学体系建设的实践探索本身进展缓慢;虽然在某些学校、某些专业开展了实践教学体系建设的实践,但大都仅仅停留在经验层面上,远没有形成有指导意义的理论,没有形成可资借鉴的实践教学体系建设结合的模式。由于林业高职院校大部分是在中专基础上独立升格为高职学院的,在这方面我国林业高职院校研究的更少。因此,在普遍研究的基础上抽取共性,建立具有典型意义的不同类型的实践教学体系建设的研究,使林业院校各专业共享成功的经验,是林业高职教育办学水平共同提高的要求。当然各管理部门也应当创新管理体制,整合各方面力量,对林业高职高专教育所面临的形势和存在的问题进行充分的分析,不断完善政策法规,加大经费投入,改革完善林业高职实训基地办学管理体制与机制,促进林业高职教育的建康发展,培养面向社会发展、经济建设一线的应用型高级专门人才,推动社会经济的全面进步。
Forestry is not only a social public welfare, but also an important infrastructure industry. It affords the ecological construction and forestry products providing. It referred to overall situation of Building a well–being society on full scale and sustainable development. It refers to the great resurgence of the nation too. It is the basic purpose for vocational education to take service as original purpose, take the employment as direction. Teach students to have good command of practical operation ability and professional skills, to cultivate them to be skillful talents. It is the basic method for talents training of high vocational college to strengthen practice teaching system construction of vocational education. At present, there is much avocation, but few practice. There are differences between different region, different fields, different colleges and different majors. There are many reasons; the lagging of research on the theories of practice teaching system construction, not enough typical experience or implement mechanism is the obvious problems at present. The exploration for the practice teaching system construction is slow, limited by policies, environment and resources. The practice teaching system construction has been launched in some colleges and some majors though; most of them just have a litter experience, far from forming directing theories, not to mention valuable modes. Most of the forestry vocational colleges are promoted independently from technical secondary schools; there is less research on practice teaching system construction. Explore the commonality above general research; establish different kind of practice teaching system that is typical. All the forestry schools share the same resources and experiences are the common need of these schools. Management organizations should improve Administration systems, integrate all the available powers and resources, and analyze the current situation and problems thoroughly. Improve policies, increase investment, reform and improve the organizing mechanism and system, promote the forestry vocational education to develop healthy. Cultivate advanced talents for the society. Make great contribution to the economy of the society.
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发表于 2007-4-13 23:00:25 | 显示全部楼层
The forestry not only is an important work for the public good, or an important foundation industry, is undertaking the ecology construction and the forest product supplies important task, the critical time comprehensive construction well-off society and the sustainable development strategic overall situation, the long term important matter which the critical time Chinese nation greatly revives. "Take the service as an objective, take the employment as the guidance, raises has stronger actual begins the ability and the professional ability skill talented person", is the vocational education school basic policy, vigorously carries out the vocational education practice teaching system construction is the high duty talented person raise essential way. But present this work still has on the surface to summon many, actual measures are few, different local, different profession, different colleges and universities and specialized progress disparity different disparity. Inside this reason are very many, the current prominent problem is practices the teaching system construction fundamental research lag, the model is insufficiently experienced, the movement mechanism lacks, as a result of the policy, the environment, the resources and so on the limit, the related practice teaching system construction practice explores itself progresses slowly; Although in certain schools, certain specialties has carried out the practice teaching system construction practice, but mostly merely pauses in the experience stratification plane, is far has not formed has the instruction significance the theory, has not formed may help the model practice teaching system construction union pattern. Because the forestry high duty colleges and universities majority is independently promotes in the specialized middle school foundation for the high duty institute, are less in this aspect our country forestry high duty colleges and universities research. Therefore, extracts the general character in the universal research foundation, the establishment has the typical significance the different type practice teaching system construction research, causes forestry colleges and universities each specialty to share the successful experience, is forestry Gao Zhi educates the request which the school level enhances together. Certainly each control section also must innovate the management system, the conformity various aspects strength, specially educates the situation and the existence question to forestry Gao Zhigao which faces carries on the full analysis, unceasingly the perfect policy laws and regulations, enlarge the funds investment, reform consummation forestry Gao Zhishi teach the base school management system and the mechanism, promotion forestry Gao Zhi educate construct Kang to develop, raise develop, an economic development application high-level special talented person face the society, impels the social economy the comprehensive progress.
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发表于 2007-4-14 15:52:16 | 显示全部楼层
Forestry is not only a social public welfare, but also an important infrastructure industry. It affords the ecological construction and forestry products supply. It referred to overall situation of Building a well–being society on full scale and sustainable development. It refers to the great resurgence of the nation too. It is a basic guideline of vocational education that to take service as its tenet, take obtaining employment as its direction, students who have good command of practical operation ability and professional skills are trained. It is the basic method for talents training of high vocational college to strengthen practice teaching system construction of vocational education. At present, there is much avocation, but few practice. There are some differences among different regions, different fields, different colleges and different majors. There are many reasons; the lagging of research on the theories of practice teaching system construction ,little typical experience and implement mechanism are the obvious problem at present. The exploration for the practice teaching system construction is slow, limited by policies, environment and resources. The practice teaching system construction has been launched in some colleges and some majors though; most of them just have a little experience, far from forming directing theories, not to mention valuable modes. Most forestry vocational colleges are promoted independently from technical secondary schools; there is less research on practice teaching system construction. Exploring the commonality above general research; establishing typical different kinds of practice teaching systems, sharing the same resources and experiences are the common needs of these schools. Management organizations should improve Administration systems, integrate all the available powers and resources, and analyze the current situation and problems thoroughly. They should improve policies, increase investment, reform and improve the organizing mechanism and system, promote the forestry vocational education to develop healthily. Advanced talents are cultivated for the society to make great contribution to the economy of the society.

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发表于 2007-4-17 20:24:15 | 显示全部楼层
Forestry is not only a social public welfare, but also an important infrastructure industry. By affording the ecological construction, providing forestry products, affecting overall situation of Building a well–being society on full scale and sustainable development,It is a theme of our ethnic great renaissance. It is the basic purpose of vocational education to take service as an original purpose and to improve employment. Teaching students the good command of practical operation ability and professional skills, cultivating them the skillful talents, it is the basic method for talents training of high vocational college  to strengthen practice teaching system construction of vocational education. At present, there is much avocation, but few practice. There are differences between different region, different fields, different colleges and different majors. There are many reasons: the lagging of research on the theories of practice teaching system construction, the obvious problems of inadequate typical experience and implement mechanism at present. The exploration for the practice teaching system construction is slow, limited by policies, environment and resources. Though the practice teaching system construction has been launched in some colleges and some majors, but most of them just have a litter experience, far from forming directing theories, not to mention valuable modes. Most of the forestry vocational colleges are promoted independently from technical secondary schools, and there are less researches on the construction of practice teaching system. Exploring the commonality above general research, establishing different kind of practical typicalteaching system, and sharing the same resources and experiences in all the forestry schools, are the common needs of these schools. Management organizations should improve administration systems, integrate all the available powers and resources, and analyze the current situation and problems thoroughly. Then they should go furture to improve policies, to increase investment, to reform and improve the organizing mechanism and system, and most important of all, to ensure the forestry vocational education's healthy develop. So they can cultivate the excellent talents for our society and make great contributions to our social economy.
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发表于 2007-4-20 19:43:43 | 显示全部楼层
The forestry not only is an important work for the public good, or an important foundation industry, is undertaking the ecology construction and the forest product supplies important task, the critical time comprehensive construction well-off society and the sustainable development strategic overall situation, the long term important matter which the critical time Chinese nation greatly revives. "Take the service as an objective, take the employment as the guidance, raises has stronger actual begins the ability and the professional ability skill talented person", is the vocational education school basic policy, vigorously carries out the vocational education practice teaching system construction is the high duty talented person raise essential way. But present this work still has on the surface to summon many, actual measures are few, different local, different profession, different colleges and universities and specialized progress disparity different disparity. Inside this reason are very many, the current prominent problem is practices the teaching system construction fundamental research lag, the model is insufficiently experienced, the movement mechanism lacks, as a result of the policy, the environment, the resources and so on the limit, the related practice teaching system construction practice explores itself progresses slowly; Although in certain schools, certain specialties has carried out the practice teaching system construction practice, but mostly merely pauses in the experience stratification plane, is far has not formed has the instruction significance the theory, has not formed may help the model practice teaching system construction union pattern. Because the forestry high duty colleges and universities majority is independently promotes in the specialized middle school foundation for the high duty institute, are less in this aspect our country forestry high duty colleges and universities research. Therefore, extracts the general character in the universal research foundation, the establishment has the typical significance the different type practice teaching system construction research, causes forestry colleges and universities each specialty to share the successful experience, is forestry Gao Zhi educates the request which the school level enhances together. Certainly each control section also must innovate the management system, the conformity various aspects strength, specially educates the situation and the existence question to forestry Gao Zhigao which faces carries on the full analysis, forestry Gao Zhishi teach the base school management system and the mechanism, promotion forestry Gao Zhi educate construct Kang to develop, raise develop, an economic development application high-level special talented person face the society, impels the social economy the comprehensive progress.
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发表于 2007-4-20 21:31:20 | 显示全部楼层
1. 糅合更好。As a social public welfare and an important infrastructure industry, forestry undertake the task of maintaining ecology and offering forestry products, building welfare of society on full scale and sustaining development, which concerns the great resurgence of the nation。

2。It is the basic principle for vocational education to be service-oriented and employment-oriented, aiming at developing student's practical and professional skills
3. strengthen the building of practice teaching system
4. There arise many problems such as many propaganda and lack of measures
5. typical reasons are ...
6. 还有不少需改进的地方
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-4-21 10:07:17 | 显示全部楼层
引用第5楼tycoon于2007-04-20 21:31发表的 :
1. 糅合更好。As a social public welfare and an important infrastructure industry, forestry undertake the task of maintaining ecology and offering forestry products, building welfare of society on full scale and sustaining development, which concerns the great resurgence of the nation。

2。It is the basic principle for vocational education to be service-oriented and employment-oriented, aiming at developing student's practical and professional skills
3. strengthen the building of practice teaching system
4. There arise many problems such as many propaganda and lack of measures
.......


既然还有许多要改进的地方,望大侠多多指正,以供大家讨论。
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发表于 2007-4-24 12:32:28 | 显示全部楼层
第一句结构比较复杂,有三层含义,即: 不但。。。还是。。。;承担。。。。任务;事关。。。事关。。。
试译如下:
Forestry is not only a socially significant public welfare, but a key basic industry. It undertakes the important tasks of ecological construction and supply of forest products, which is of vital importance to the strategy of building a moderately prosperous society in an all-round way and sustainable development, and also to the long-term goal of rejuvenating the Chinese people.
看了楼上坛友们的译文,“事关”这个词都没译好,在这不是“关于”的意思,而是“对。。。具有重要意义”或者“对。。。。具有影响”。
仅以此例说明翻译是件难事。
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发表于 2007-4-29 14:50:22 | 显示全部楼层
仅就第一句:Forestry is not only a social public welfare, but also an important infrastructure industry. It affords the ecological construction and forestry products providing. It referred to overall situation of Building a well–being society on full scale and sustainable development. It refers to the great resurgence of the nation too.
(1)感觉似乎用not only..but..更顺一些。
(2)基础产业,建议用basic industry;infrastructure 的意思侧重于基础设施。
(3)承担任务,用undertake a task也不错:)
(4)林产品供给,是不是用supply of forest products?
(5)小康社会,是不是用well-off society?不确定
(6)中华民族伟大复兴的长远大计,是不是可以考虑用 the great rejuvenation of the nation's long-term plans?

.....版主还可以好好润色一下文章:)

ps....晕,发帖前没看楼上高手的点评。。。献丑啦,版主可以不给奖励,嘿嘿
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发表于 2007-4-30 22:46:51 | 显示全部楼层
(1)基础产业=基础工业+基础设施业,是一个总称,即 basic industry and basic infrastructure;通常用basic industry 指代“基础产业”,本文讲的是“林业”,用"basic industry" 较好。

(2)“小康社会”中的“小康”可从《三个代表重要思想通俗读本》中的一段话加以理解:人均国民生产总值达到大约800美元,老百姓生活虽不富裕,但日子比较好过,这就算达到"小康水平"。网上目前有三种表达法:a. well-being society; b. well-off society; c. moderately prosperous society
well-being 是“康乐,福利”之意;well-off是“富裕,富足”之意;这两个词比较口语化;prosperous“富裕,繁荣”之意,书面语,前面用程度副词moderately(适度地)修饰,比较贴切“小康”,因此,“全面建设小康社会”比较好的译法是:
To build/turn/advance China into a moderately prosperous society in an all-round / well-rounded way
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发表于 2007-5-6 09:23:24 | 显示全部楼层
1、It referred to overall situation of Building a well–being society on full scale and sustainable development. It refers to the great resurgence of the nation too.中的referred to应改为refers to
2、Teach students to have good command of practical operation ability and professional skills, to cultivate them to be skillful talents. 中的Teach 改为Cultivate students to have good command of practical operation ability and professional skills, and at last been skillful talents
3、It is the basic method for talents training of high vocational college to strengthen practice teaching system construction of vocational education.中的to strengthen 改为is that strength
4、There are differences between different region 中的differences between different region 改为different disparity
between different regions
5、the lagging of research on the theories of practice teaching system construction, not enough typical experience or implement mechanism is the obvious problems at present.中的not enough typical experience or implement mechanism改为insufficient typical experience or deficient mechanism
6、The practice teaching system construction has been launched in some colleges and some majors though改为Though has the practice teaching system construction been launched in some colleges and some majors
7、not to mention valuable modes.改为后面加for modelling
8、All the forestry schools share the same resources and experiences are the common need of these schools改为All the forestry schools sharing the same resources and experiences are the common need of these schools for enhancing together
9、Cultivate advanced talents for the society. Make great contribution to the economy of the society.
改为Develop an economic development application high-level special talented person face the society, impels the social economy the comprehensive progress.
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发表于 2008-4-18 21:12:15 | 显示全部楼层
Forestry is not only a social and public welfare, but also an important infrastructural industry, which affords the ecological construction and forest products. It has an overall impact on building a moderately prosperous society in all respects and sustainable development and also on the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. It is the basic guidelines for vocational education to take service as original purpose, take the employment as direction, and cultivate some skillful talents who have a good command of practical operation ability and professional skills.

暂且校对几句,问题颇多,个人感觉中式英语较为突出,不过句型还是不错的:)
1. social public 改为social and public,至于中间为何加上and,仔细体会一下

2. 用which,照应前面。affords用得很好,可以管上两个宾语,呵呵。巧好一词双雕,afford刚好又有provide之意

3. forestry prodcts改为forest products

4. It has an overall impact on 这个句型用上来,可以管两个“事关”,然后用and连接两个on

5.全面建设小康社会译为:building a moderately prosperous society in all respects

6. 中华民族伟大复兴 译为:the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation

7. purposes改为:guidelines,这个句型不错,后面用三个不定式并列,但是最后一个应该调整:talents who 用who这个关系代词管住后面一串的定语。

有时间的话,我继续看看:)
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发表于 2008-4-20 09:02:03 | 显示全部楼层
因为汉语原文写的太中国化了,即使翻译的再好,外国人看了也可能会不知所云....
外国人看不懂,翻译的意义又何在呢....
我的改动,很多地方并不完全符合lz的汉语原文,不妥之处很多,仅供参考.....



林业不但是一项重要的社会公益事业,还是一顶重要的基础产业,承担着生态建设和林产品供给的重要任务,事关全面建设小康社会和可持续发展的战略全局,事关中华民族伟大复兴的长远

大计。
Forestry, as an important infrastructure providing the ecological services and forest products, is important for social well-being and public welfare. The developement of forestry is of great significance to the nation's long term strategy of sustainable development, and to the implementation of the nation's policy of Building a Well-being Society on Full Scale and the Great Rejuvenation of the Chinese Nation.

“以服务为宗旨,以就业为导向,培养具有较强实际动手能力和职业能力的技能型人才”,是职业教育办学的基本方针。
"Serving for the students as the basic tenets, increasing the employment opportunities as the direction, training for the skilled workforce, educating students with good command of practical operation ability and working skills", is the guideline for vocational education.

大力开展职业教育实践教学体系建设是高职人才培养的基本途径。
Strengthening the practical teaching system construction in vocational college is the basic path for the education of high quality vocational gruaduates.

但目前此项工作尚存在着面上号召多、实际措施少,不同地区、不同行业、不同院校与专业的进展差距着不同差距。
At present, there is much more advocacy than practice. There are great disparities in the practical teaching system construction among different regions, fields, colleges and majors in vocational education.
(待续...)
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发表于 2008-4-20 11:42:10 | 显示全部楼层
因为汉语原文写的太中国化了,即使翻译的再好,外国人看了也可能会不知所云....
外国人看不懂,翻译的意义又何在呢....
我的改动,很多地方并不完全符合lz的汉语原文,不妥之处很多,仅供参考.....



林业不但是一项重要的社会公益事业,还是一顶重要的基础产业,承担着生态建设和林产品供给的重要任务,事关全面建设小康社会和可持续发展的战略全局,事关中华民族伟大复兴的长远大计。
Forestry, as an important infrastructure providing the ecological services and forest products, is important for social well-being and public welfare. The developement of forestry is of great significance to the nation's long term strategy of sustainable development, and to the implementation of the nation's policy of Building a Well-being Society on Full Scale and the Great Rejuvenation of the Chinese Nation.

“以服务为宗旨,以就业为导向,培养具有较强实际动手能力和职业能力的技能型人才”,是职业教育办学的基本方针。
"Serving for the students as the basic tenets, increasing the employment opportunities as the direction, training for the skilled workforce, educating students with good command of practical operation abilities and working skills", is the guideline for vocational education.

大力开展职业教育实践教学体系建设是高职人才培养的基本途径。
Strengthening the practical teaching system construction in vocational college is the basic path for the education of high quality vocational gruaduates.

但目前此项工作尚存在着面上号召多、实际措施少,不同地区、不同行业、不同院校与专业的进展差距着不同差距。
However, there is much more advocacy than practice at present. Great disparities exist in the practical teaching system construction among different regions, fields, colleges and majors in vocational education.


这里面的原因很多,当前突出的问题是实践教学体系建设理论研究滞后、典型经验不足、运行机制缺乏,由于政策、环境、资源等的限制,有关实践教学体系建设的实践探索本身进展缓慢;
There are many causes of problems in the practical teaching system construction: due to police, education environment and resources limitations, the progress of the practical teaching system construction is slow -- theoretical research are lagging behind, lacking mature experiences as guide and model, and established implementation mechanism are short.

虽然在某些学校、某些专业开展了实践教学体系建设的实践,但大都仅仅停留在经验层面上,远没有形成有指导意义的理论,没有形成可资借鉴的实践教学体系建设结合的模式。
Though practical teaching system construction has been launched in some colleges and some majors, most of the exploration are just in the experiential level, far from directing theories, not to mention any guiding models.

由于林业高职院校大部分是在中专基础上独立升格为高职学院的,在这方面我国林业高职院校研究的更少(why???多写句话解释下就更好了)。
Most of the forestry vocational colleges were upgraded independently from technical secondary schools, so there is less research on practical teaching system construction in forestry vocational colleges.

因此,在普遍研究的基础上抽取共性,建立具有典型意义的不同类型的实践教学体系建设的研究,使林业院校各专业共享成功的经验,是林业高职教育办学水平共同提高的要求。
Boosting the research of practical teaching system construction, extracting the commonality among generallity, establishing functional guide and model of different kind, sharing resources and experiences among all the forestry vocational colleges, are the requirements for all of them to improve their education quality.

当然各管理部门也应当创新管理体制,整合各方面力量,对林业高职高专教育所面临的形势和存在的问题进行充分的分析,不断完善政策法规,加大经费投入,改革完善林业高职实训基地办学管理体制与机制,促进林业高职教育的建康发展,培养面向社会发展、经济建设一线的应用型高级专门人才,推动社会经济的全面进步。
Administration authorities should also improve on the administrative procedures and systems, thoroughly analyze the current situation and existing problems of forestry vocational education, to integrate all the available powers and resources, and improving policies, reforming the administrative mechanism and system, increasing investment, to speed up the healthy development of forestry vocational education, to faciltate the education of quallified labor for the society, making contributions to the social and economic development.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-22 08:10:50 | 显示全部楼层
首先表示歉意啊,我不能给大家加分了。
这些稿子的中文都是别人写的,写得虽然不咋样,但一般都发到核心期刊上去了,作为小翻译,有什么办法呢。人家咋写咱就咋翻,如果你作过翻译你就知道,你要做的是翻译好手头的稿子,你无权改别人的稿子。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-22 08:14:46 | 显示全部楼层
经常碰到这样的情况,人家找我翻译,然后发出去,之后被编缉改得像油画一样(脏,乱),我再根据中文调整英文。有时一下子接到手里三十几篇稿子,晕死啊。
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