第十七期论坛英语辩论活动(1个威望)

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第十七期论坛英语辩论活动(1个威望)

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辩论题目:抵制日本货是否可以给日本经济带来影响

myl892

Repel Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics

    Whether a country's economics is strong or not,in some degree,is depending on whether  the country has a lot of great companies.Great companies can help the country's small ones growing.So great conpanies are the stanchion of the country's economics. Japan has many big companies,such as Sony.These great companies grow bigger by exporting trade. China is a big market.If most of us repel Japanese goods,they will get little money from our market.And they are not able to digest their goods in their own market.So these companies are not able to get their money feeded back in time.And they may miss opporunities to develop new products.

      On the other hands,our country's companies can grasp the opporunities.First, we should increase the quality of our products.And our companies can earn lots of money in our own market. After our companies get money feeded back,we use these money to develop advanced products. Our companies can grow much bigger in this way.In some years,Japanese companies will find many Chinese competitors appeared.Then we could compete with Japanese companies in the world market. It will certainly affect Japanese economics.

      In a word,repelling Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics.

tjbnbnbn

Yes, a new anti-Japanese boycott movement will certainly affect the economy of Japan. Japan is a small country of territory. The resources of this country are very deficient. So the development of Japanese economy extremely relies on their product exportation. China is one of the largest consumers of Japanese commodities. So if we Chinese never buy Japanese commodities any more. The economy of Japan would be affected seriously. There will be unemployment, economic depression and social turbulence in Japan. Yeah, great! Someone will say that. But please note that Japan is not the only victim in this movement. Who will be the other one? Yes it’s China ourselves. Why should I say that? China and Japan are the neighboring country. There are very complicated relations between the two countries. Both of us act important roles in the world. At present China cannot completely separate from the Japanese and do not receive any injuries. And there is another important reason which is that Japan's product has very high quality and at the same time the price is relatively lower than others’. From  the tactical point of view, the anti-Japanese boycott movement is some how a kind of passive resistance. And the passive resistance will not result in good. We must thoroughly know the Japanese products, learn from the strong points. And we can wait for an opportunity to attack their weakness, substitute for the Japanese commodities by Chinese products. Then we will recapture the consumers in our own country. So that is what in my opinion: we should work diligently, and defeat Japanese products fundamentally.

vfdat

I support boycotting goods made in Japan.From reality of China,a global workshop of the world,we know that many goods are made in China which label a Japanese brand. They are made in China by Chinese people with Chinese resources,if we boycott them, then interests of China suffer. So I ask you make it clear before boycotting.

tsfrank

In my opinion, the answer is yes without doubt. However, how much the final effect will attain is uncertain.
Firstly, the economy of every country in the world is related with each other tightly today. Any part's change can influence the other part, needless to say China and Japan, which both are great economic group, the unfriendly actions must have a big influence for each side. For example, Japan sell many mechanic and electronic products to China, and China also sell many products to Japan too, both sides get benefits from the trade, although the benefits maybe large or small for one side.

Secondly, whether we should boycott the Japanese products should not accord the rule that damage the Japanese economy, but that what good can take to our nation. Only this, we can get a good result and get the maximum benefits for our country. If we just boycott the Japanese products only to damage its economy, at a cost of our economy's damage with other good effects, I do not think it is a good plan. We should make a better one instead of the one which is not perfect. And certainly, we can find the better solution for ourselves sooner or later.

Thirdly, as the people of a great country with a long history, we should think about problems maturely and moderately. We all know, to tackle problems just with courage is not enough, we must think it over and over. Just like an old saying, look before you leap. I think we should do things prudently for our country's benefits instead of making decisions blindly just for a short happy feeling in our minds. And the one who only announce loving country without deeds is absolutely a black sheep.

独孤芳

To resist Japanese products is neither because they are made in Japan, nor because we want to blow Japanese economy. To resist Japanese products is a display of our national integrity, an awakening for nation awareness and a way of economic balance. The most substantial and direct motive is to call back the market order of justice and equity, and to reconstruct the image of Japanese products as what they should be: good quality with low price.

At present, injustices exist in entry of Japanese products into China. First, injustice in quality standards: Japan conducts multi-standards in export, with their best products sold to Europe and North America, less good to South and East Asia and the lest good to China. Second, injustice in Service Standards: on the recall process for defected merchandises, Japan conducts a policy not to recall or to defer recalling the defected merchandises from China. a prominent example is in the case of recalling TOSHIBA notebooks. Third, injustice in price: Japan takes a low-price strategy to overwhelm global markets; however when it comes to China, the merchandises become over-popular with over-pricing. Let’s take automobiles for example, the price for cars hovers, for service, roars and for fitting pieces, fixes.

Four, injustice in composition of Sino-Japan Joint Ventures: it’s more of cooperation rather than of joint venture.

辩论题目:抵制日本货是否可以给日本经济带来影响
Positive side: YES
Negative side: NO

引用第1楼myl892于2006-06-22 14:16发表的“”:

Repel Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics

    China is a big market.If most of us repel Japanese goods,they will get little money from our market.And they are not able to digest their goods in their own market.So these companies are not able to get their money feeded back in time.And they may miss opporunities to develop new products.
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This is the first post. The title tells us the viewpoint of the author_YES.
But the following statements is somewhat arbitrary."On the other hands,our country's companies can grasp the opporunities.First, we should increase the quality of our products. And our companies can earn lots of money in our own market. After our companies get money feeded back,we use these money to develop advanced products. Our companies can grow much bigger in this way.In some years,Japanese companies will find many Chinese competitors appeared.Then we could compete with Japanese companies in the world market. It will certainly affect Japanese
economics.
"

引用第2楼tjbnbnbn于2006-06-22 15:52发表的“”:
Yes, a new anti-Japanese boycott movement will certainly affect the economy of Japan. ...But please note that Japan is not the only victim in this movement. Who will be the other one? Yes it’s China ourselves. Why should I say that? China and Japan are the neighboring country. There are very complicated relations between the two countries. Both of us act important roles in the world. At present China cannot completely separate from the Japanese and do not receive any injuries. And there is another important reason which is that Japan's product has very high quality and at the same time the price is relatively lower than thers’.
the anti-Japanese boycott movement is some how a kind of passive resistance. And the passive resistance will not result in good. We must thoroughly know the Japanese products, learn from the strong points. And we can wait for an opportunity to attack their weakness, substitute for the Japanese commodities by Chinese
products. Then we will recapture the consumers in our own country. So that is what in my opinion: we should work diligently, and defeat Japanese products fundamentally.

This is an article with high quality. The author's opinion is awfully objective and reasonable. Firstly, he admit the possible effect on Japan. Then he told us the other side of this measure, i.e. the effect on China for the interaction. Futhermore, he pointed out the boycott is sort of passive way. What is the positive method? The answer was disclosed in the end of the above article.
I think it should get 2 points.

引用第3楼vfdat于2006-06-22 16:56发表的“”:
From reality of China,a global workshop of the world,we know that many goods are made in China which label a Japanese brand. They are made in China by Chinese people with Chinese resources,if we boycott them, then interests of China suffer.

This post is very short. However, it still has some fresh content by reminding us that some of the Janpanese product are actually made in China. In a sense, the boycott means some possible unemployment.

引用第4楼tsfrank于2006-06-22 17:47发表的“”:
However, how much the final effect will attain is uncertain.
Firstly, the economy of every country in the world is related with each other tightly today. Any part's change can influence the other part, needless to say China and Japan, which both are great economic group, the unfriendly actions must have a big influence for each side. Secondly, whether we should boycott the Japanese products should not accord the rule that damage the Japanese economy, but that what good can take to our nation. ...If we just boycott the Japanese products only to damage its economy, at a cost of our economy's damage with other good effects, I do not think it is a good plan. ...
.......

This post is also worthy of reading. Tha arguer reminds us that to boycott is not absolutely a good measure because of the Butterfly Effect. We know there is also a fable the one raise a stone only to  hurt his own feet.  Then from the angle of economics, everything we do has its own cost, so does the boycott. The reasonable decision should be made on the basis of the benifit of our China rather than the demage to Japan economics.  It is easy to understand the measure will hurt two
sides. So, why is it necessary?

引用第5楼独孤芳于2006-06-22 18:08发表的“”:
To resist Japanese products is neither because they are made in Japan, nor because we want to blow Japanese economy. To resist Japanese products is a display of our national integrity, an awakening for nation awareness and a way of economic balance. The most substantial and direct motive is to call back the market order of justice and equity, and to reconstruct the image of Japanese products as what they should be: good quality with low price....

This post bring us some new idea. But some of the details are perplexing, e.g. "To resist Japanese products is neither because they are made in Japan, ..."

So far, all the arguers agree with the positive side, i.e. To boycott Janpanese products will affect its ecnomy. Then respectively, excellent details were offered.
I can make a forecast that almost every arguer will support the positive side. So this debate is somewhat interesting for its having only one side.

macauor

Japanese economics will suffer from repeling Japanese goods from China. The main factors
are as following:

Firstly, China is the largest market of Japanese productions. As we can see, many electric
instruments are selled in stores such as Sony, Canon, Panasonic and so on. Therefore, China consume amounts of production made in Japan. Japan benefits from the tradement with China. If China adopts measures to restrain the sale from Japan, Japan will lose countless incoming.

Secondly,China is also the market of raw materials for Japan. Every year China provides cheap
raw materials to Japan. And then Japan change the raw materials into the productions by its
high technology. The productions are selled to everywhere in  the whole worlds. So amounts of benifit come into Japan during this process. Therefore, China has a protential effect on the incoming of Japan.

Last, China is the labor market for Japan. We can see that there are a lot of factories invested
by Japan. These factories produced lots of electric productions by our workers. It should be addressed, Japanese companies always apply high working load on our workers and restrain them during the work hours. This should be seriously considered by our government.

In a word, China has signficant effects on the economy situations of Japan.

ma56607

The phenomenon of resisting Japanese product can be divided into three kinds: the first is to resist it whenever people encounter it themselves; the second is not only they never sell or buy Japanese product, but also they force others not to do either or destroy other’s normal business activity which is related to Japanese product; the third is attacking the Japanese company or factory in our country.

All the activities above are not acceptable. The present economy is worldwide, the most of so-called Japanese product is not made in Japanese, but as we can see many kinds are produced in China, that not only offer working opportunity for our country, but also enhance our industrial technique.

Meanwhile, the main present aim of country is to develop our economy. The fact is that our country is a developing one, so we need a peaceful environment. Maybe thirty or twenty years later we can resist Japanese product absolutely when we are developed.

anatoli

I insisted that repel Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics. Let me discuss it from the economic and traditional relation between China and Japanese. Japan, is a country with small amount of land and a lot of people. It is featured with its extroverted economics, and its economics is based on the product sold to other foreign countries. In contrast, China is a country with large amount of resource, and lots of people. In addition, trend of China economics is ascending now. People in China will possess a capacity of buying goods, and consuming as the growth of Chinese economics. It is naturally that close economic and traditional relation was established in the past two decades. Now China has been the first important traditional associate since 2004. The products from Japan such as Electric device, mechanical device, plastics are mainly sold to China. So in other words, China has played an important role in Japanese economics. Hence, if our Chinese people all do not buy the goods from Japan, the economics of Japan will be sequent affected.

In a word, I agree with the opinion that repel Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics

windancer

Whether resisting Japanese product will affect the Japanese's economy?From my stand point,it all depends.
It's certain that Japanese economics will suffer if lots of Chinese resist lots kinds of Japanese product.However,the fact is that that there are many kinds of Japanese has been in our country,to some degree,they are better than other countries.For example,Japanese cartoon maybe the best product in the same kind product all over the world and many of us have been watching Japanese cartoons since we were young.And in eletronic producs,there are many Chinese who are fond of SONY or other Japanese products.
Second,resisting Japanese product is not a thing that lasts for a temporay time.We should think of this case.
So if we really want to affect Japanese,we should become stronger than Japan in producting the same kind of products,so that most Chinese will not buy Japanese naturally.
PS:I hate most of the Japanese,too.

tycoon

The boycott of Japanese commodities imposes little or no effect on Japanese economy
  In our anti-Japanese war in the past, our Chinese youths and scholars also expressed very strong patriotism by calling on the chinese people to resist Japanese products. Such great hatred against Japan was completely reasonable and understandable. Did such movement bring about a deadly blow to Japan or Japanese economy. Not necessarily. Nowadays the Chinese people regain the anti-Japanese complex because of all kinds of misconduct from the Japanese government or with the increase of our comprehensive economic and military power. This again shows that the debts owed by the Japanese will never be forgotten with the times. This also shows the time is yet to come when the Chinese should stand up to revenge if what we can do is just boycotting Japanese goods.
   We might look at the question in a different light. Why do we still buy Japanese goods though we are reluctant to? Obviously Japanese products are superior to ours in quality or in service. So it is clear to see the problem still comes from ourselves. In fact we must have confidence and courage to admit or accept our weaknesses. Facts speak for themselves. It is wrong and insensible to show pride or self-importance without any reasons.
  In the eyes of the Chinese people, Japan is never a super power and it will never be in the future. Maybe in some day the japanese will serve the Chinese as it did happen in the history.

letmegogo

I don’t think that we Chinese don’t buy any products produced by Japanese company, such as Japanese cars, Japanese electrical products, Japanese clothes etc, can generate very significant influence on the economy of Japan. First of all, Japan is one of the most strong counties in economic in the world, following America. This can no be denied, even though we Chinese hate Japanese a lot. But hate itself can not guarantee a better development for China. So only when we realize the distance between China and Japan in economy, can we do our best to make China better. Besides, China is not the only nation that import Japanese products. Several other countries will import Japanese products, no matter whether China import or use Japanese products. SO because of its quality and low prices, they can find lots of buyers in the world besides China. If China would not buy products from Japan, then it will buy from other countries which may cost much more money than buying from Japan. This is not good for the development of the economy of China. So, although we hate Japan and Japanese a lot, but for the purpose of developing our own country so as to beat Japan in the future, I think it is not a good idea to buy some products made in Japan, The advantages of doing so will outperform the disadvantages.

zhangyying

From the People's feelings to the Japanese people,we would say that of course we should repel the Japanese goods;but from the economy point of view,we would say that it is also benifit ourselves from buying Japanese goods,for most of the Japanese goods are of high qualities,and looks good.

Also,many Japanese goods are made in China,so it affords job opportunities to our Chinese people.From cooperations with the big Japanese companies ,we Chinese companies can learn many advanced technologies which of course benifit us.

In all, we should not repel Japanese goods.

galaxie

No, of course its economy will never be deadly effected by a country, even if the country is China or America.
Japan's economy will not get so much expressed than people think via losing a purchasing country, which may be its greatest trading partner. In the age of economic globalization, if a country does not buy, then there is nothing important, because there are other countries that would do. If Europe, Russia, Southeast Asia, America, Africa and other countries or regionals combine their purchasing volume, can't it overwhelm China's influence?  
In an idealistic market, market demand and market supply basicaly are in a saturation level, the lossing of a quota means some one else receiveing excess quotas, and in a country the purchase of the funds are limited, which means that it will be in another place of their own that are more than a quota to transfer out. In other words, the lossing of quotas in other parts of the market could be compensated. Now in the era of globalization, the rapid flow of market information, market demand and supply requirements will soon be know by everyonr, therefore hopeing that by not buying products of a country to beat its enemy is tantamount to fly in their dreams. Unless all the countries would stand in China's side, will japan get collapsed? It is obvious that China can not do this, it has no such power.

No. We say we won't buy Janpanese products, many of us repeat this motto many times. But Economy has a very large range. the question is what kind of Janpanese products we won't buy.

Actually, still we can find many Janpanese products in the markets, such as digital cameras, cars. We can not deny the fact that the quality of the products make many people feel they are reliable. Of cause Some of Japan's products are competitive, some are not. However in my opinion, the ecnonmy is effect by many different factors,and the situation can not be change shortly.I don't think the action we take will have strong cause and effect relationship with Janpan's economy.

However, the action we take must treaten Japan's businesses in some ways. How to make it more influental? Not only to say and tell we won't buy those, but make the elimination of Janpanese products in consumers' choices continuously.In my opinion may be we have to become to manufacture same competitive and high quality products, then people may put some of their attention on our products instead of entirely rely on those products made in Japan.

Since China is a big trading partner of Japan, if the actions are taken everywhere in the country  continuously, it must be influental negatively to Japan's economy.On one side we improve the competitiveness of our own business, on the other side we influct Janpanes economy negatively. Finally it will let them feel there are things going wrong with themselves.

yinianwuyu

Nowadays with the development of economy ,the world has become an interlinked world and a small place .One disturbance in one place will certainly affects the other areas in the world. Of course ,the action ,in my view ,of repelling Japanese goods will affect Japanese ecomony.However our country will also suffer from it .It is true  that many Japannese companies have their branches in China which not only offer more job opportunities but also impulse the progress of technology .Certainly,by coincidence,we also should keep one eye on the sorry fact that  Japanese companies always impose high working load on our workers and restrain them during the work hours.The advantages mingle with the disadvantages.

Given more serious thinking ,perhaps we can resort this way of repelling Japanese goods to show the emotion of patriotilism .However it is  not far enough to be mere patriotism ,i think.We ,especial our young generation,should introspect the serious theme.Maybe we should pay more attention to the development of our country and the improvement of people's living standard.The main thing we should do in this period is how to make our country to be more prosperous and wealthier  .Now our country is a developing country ,we have a lot of things to learn from the developed country.We also should learn something from
the Japan because of their advanced technologies and efficient commercial managements.There is no doubt about the truths of the high quality goods produced by Sony, Canon, Panasonic and so on .

Now our country's prestige is increasing  according our country's development .I expect our country to own more respectation . It is really  depending on hard working done instead of great words said .Now we should work assiduously to ensure a more powerful nation.As a result ,we can have  harmonic relationships with other countris,even though the small gruop of hostile people will also  have to show their respect .

xuyixuyan

    In my opinion，if China boycott Japanese product, then Japanese economy will become to lag, even paralysis, I think that the answer of every Chinese is the same.
    Because, firstly, in my life, every thing was almost made in Japan, it is electronic product especially, such as: SONY, and so on, they are full with in our life, so, Japanese product have the large of market, if China boycott Japanese product, then the export of Japanese product will decrease, so, the result of Japanese economy will become of lag, even paralysis.
    Secondly, the number of Japanese invest in China, then we boycott Japanese product, the result of this businessman of Japanese can not gain money, thus Japanese economy have affect too.
    Thirdly, now China become to stronger and stronger all over the world, at the same time, China and Japan are the neighboring country, so, China have the great affect for Japanese develop.
    My opinion have personal feeling, because I resent Japan, include Japanese, after The Second War, I want to Japan feudalism, but it is not at all, so every Chinese ought to become more diligently, the result of Japanese product will vanish in our life, or, we produce better product than Japanese product, at last, our product seize hold of all market, thereby supplant Japanese product.
    In word, my answer is yes for affect Japanese economy by boycott Japanese product.
    I think that lots of friends will agree to my opinion.

lxr1182

I think  repelling Japanese goods will inflect the Japanese economy greatly.

As we all know, most of Japanese goods are being sold to China. Minor of Japanese goods are being sold to America and Europe. But the situation is that goods sold to us are worse than those to America and Europe.This hurts us extremely. We are all consumers,but how does the treatment difference comes. Objectively, I think we should repel Japanese goods due to the different treatment.

Subjectively, Japanese have a very bad national mentality. They do not reliase their  evil doing in World War Two. They hurt us seviorly. So, we should repel Japanese goods, and we can not support Japan. Japanese economy is freaky,. It depends all on import and export. They have little resource at home. So, they import a lot of cheap raw and processed materials, and produce new products to export. This is their way of life. Of course, Japanese import does not depends only on us, but most does. So, we can take measures to restrain the export to Japan.
If this will inflect our finance, at least, we can repel the import from Japan. If we all do not buy Japanese goods, they will lose market of China. Of course,they can not obtain money from us.Then another economic crisis will be put on in Japan. That is what we want to see.

Although Japanese techniques are advanced, we do not envy those. We can develop by ourselves. I believe that everyone of us do not want to see that Japan  invade us again with money we gave.

金苦瓜

In my opinion ，boycotting Japanese goods will affect Japanese economics without doubt.

    Unfortunately,Japanese goods can be seen at every corner,especially in the electronic fields.most of electric appliances can be made by China,America or other countries,but if you remove the cases of these appliances,you will find that many ICs or components are from Japan. if Chinese boycott Japanese products, then the export of Japanese products will decrease.

    China and Japan, both are great economic group, the unfriendly actions must have a big influence for each side，and we know,Japan is a small country of territory but China not. The resources of this country are very deficient. the development of Japanese economy extremely relies on their product exportation. So,it must have a bigger influence for Japan, the result of Japanese economy will be affected seriously.

    As a righteous indignation youth, I think we can boycott the finished products of Japanese brand.to some cosmetics,house appliances and cars,we can resist them. For me ,I didn't purchase Japanese goods directly many year ago.on the other hand,our government should be responsible to develop our education and draw some policies to encourage national industry,especially in manufacture, electronics industry etc.

    In a word,chinese people should boycott Japanese goods now. we would not buy any Japanese goods until the Japanese government and many of the Japanese can face the history and do what they can to stop the worsening of relationships between Japan and its neighbours.


that is all,thanks a lot!