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[[求助与讨论]] 类招标制,大力鼓励外语区原创稿件

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发表于 2007-10-21 16:51:25 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

最近,外语区水贴较多
macauor,doctorliubo,agldacheng做了很多努力,所倡起的活动
近期的如
macauor斑竹的
推荐英文歌曲-主题世界和平
介绍自己的学校和自己的专业
等,活动紧跟时代,参与的绝大多数作品是100%原创,且很积极向上

doctorliubo搞的学习系列
完美翻译挑战-----分享大家的翻译
……
……
等具有学术味也鼓励大家参加

而暂时不做斑竹的agldacheng善于从自然帖中去粗存精,沙粒淘金
赢得大家发帖的积极性

斑竹们各有靓招,其实,我们广大会员也发现,无论是再好的话题也有暂时讨论完的时候
再好的帖也有因时效关闭的时候,
斑竹再好,他们也有不得不忙自己的工作的时候,

寻找崭新话题需要翻阅资料,更需要时间和大家的耐心
大家可以出点子帮忙想“参与话题”,实现类招标制,谁好采用谁的!
譬如,鼓励原创稿件,原创的,如果文笔友好,斑竹酌情加分
真正原汁原味的作品大家的眼睛雪亮
这样会员的原创热情高了,水帖逐渐少了(导向的力量是无穷的),大家参与的人情更高了,相应的各自的学术、创作的学习水平也高了
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发表于 2007-10-21 17:01:07 | 显示全部楼层
有些书友为了在专家找书,期刊求助得到帮助,在一般板块发贴挣财富无可厚非。不过,只是为了赚财富而发无质量的灌水贴,就违背了发贴的主旨了!

有质量,回复量高,有书友有帮助的贴子一定会得到加威望财富的!

对灌水贴一定严惩!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-21 19:03:57 | 显示全部楼层
  十六大以来我国教育事业着力抓好八项工作, 五是大力加强教师队伍建设,不断提高教师特别是农村教师队伍整体水平。通过采取有力措施,保障教师的政治地位、社会地位、职业地位,不断改善教师的工作、学习、生活条件,高度重视教师培养培训,大张旗鼓地表彰优秀教师。
      十七大更是教育利好消息不断!“把‘优先发展教育,建设人力资源强国’、‘教育是民族振兴的基石,教育公平是社会公平的重要基础’写入十七大报告,让大家感到特别振奋!
      园地里也有很多辛勤奉献的教育工作者,您辛苦了!
      早些时候写的一篇为老师写的稿子“绿叶的事业”,求教于园友:


The Career of a Green Leaf
    ----Write for teachers


        Without aims, one’s life is blind. Without struggle, one can never achieve great achievements. Without love, one is in dark. A teacher is kind of person who aims at enormous achievements and is never stingy at sharing his love with his students. The twenty-third Teachers’ Day has come. We can’t help saying the following lines to our teachers:
        Every day you go to sleep later than 12 p.m. and get up before 6 a.m. You have your own child, however, you have no time to take care of him (her). Classroom ---- Office ---- Dining room, there’s hardly any time left for you to cook for the family. It often happens, after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading. But you always make sure every student has a good meal. As the students are far from home, you act like mother and father!
        People often say, if a teacher wants to give students a bowl of water, he (she) needs at least a bucket of water. Factually, that’s far richer than a bucket of water! You yourself are a running stream, even a river! You are skillful to pass on unbelievable wonderful methods to your students so that you are sure your students have known the way to fetch water and that they have also become a scream or a river! You are not “a mountain to recite texts (having too much reciting burden for students)”, and you are never “the sea to do exercises (having too much homework)”! So as to avoid becoming “the mountain” or “the sea”, no one knows how much work you have done quietly and industriously. No one has any idea how much time and energy is spent dealing with school daily trivialities!
         In eyes of school authorities, you are one of able staff; in the students’ mind, you are an excellent kind-hearted mother and a stern father; to your dear parents, you are a good child. Seeing big smiles on your face, no one believes that you have borne too much burden, pressure and responsibility! When you fall ill, even you have been sick for months and years, you can hardly spare any time to go to see a doctor! When your child begs you to attend the school parents’ meeting, you, a teacher, have to ask other family members to go instead of you! What’s more, the moment your parent is passing away, you have no chance to see him/ her for the last time!
         Feelings are on the left side while love is on the right, and you are walking in the middle of the road! Every day you sow or plant, you go all out to cultivate and look after your young students, without wishing for any repayment!
         Though in most cases there’re no signs left in the sky, we know, you have flown across in the sky for your kids!
         The career of flowers is nice. The fruits are sweet and noble. You, indeed, are willing to be a green leaf. You simply remember one sentence: green leaves can set off red flowers and highlight the beauty!
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发表于 2007-10-21 19:07:55 | 显示全部楼层
书园艺术节筹委会有意与外语版联动搞个小活动,不知版主可有兴趣。
这个只能让macauor斑竹进行操作了

我发个帖找人来翻译我们投标书的一段内容。
有斑竹看情况给点奖励吧,奖励额度可不要小于外语版的常规额度就行了。
呵呵

不知是否可行?
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发表于 2007-10-21 19:49:03 | 显示全部楼层
涂于德, you did more for english culumn. thanks
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发表于 2007-10-21 19:57:11 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,我谨占位向老板娘给与的支持表示衷心感谢。
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发表于 2007-10-22 00:07:41 | 显示全部楼层
终于看到传说中的老板娘啦~~~
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发表于 2007-10-22 22:44:37 | 显示全部楼层
老板娘要出山了
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发表于 2007-10-26 19:39:27 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,最近忙很多事情,耽误了管理,很是抱歉~~~

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发表于 2007-10-27 23:32:30 | 显示全部楼层
引用第2楼涂于德于2007-10-21 19:03发表的 :
     十六大以来我国教育事业着力抓好八项工作, 五是大力加强教师队伍建设,不断提高教师特别是农村教师队伍整体水平。通过采取有力措施,保障教师的政治地位、社会地位、职业地位,不断改善教师的工作、学习、生活条件,高度重视教师培养培训,大张旗鼓地表彰优秀教师。
      十七大更是教育利好消息不断!“把‘优先发展教育,建设人力资源强国’、‘教育是民族振兴的基石,教育公平是社会公平的重要基础’写入十七大报告,让大家感到特别振奋!
      园地里也有很多辛勤奉献的教育工作者,您辛苦了!
      早些时候写的一篇为老师写的稿子“绿叶的事业”,求教于园友:

.......

点评一下,见笑了。

The Career of a Green Leaf
    ----Write for teachers
此处应为writing吧,write不能做名词

Without aims, one’s life is blind. Without struggle, one can never achieve great achievements. Without love, one is in dark. A teacher is kind of person who aims at enormous achievements and is never stingy at sharing his love with his students. The twenty-third Teachers’ Day has come. We can’t help saying the following lines to our teachers:

achieve great achievements重复罗嗦了,建议achieve改为make。A teacher后面的is kind of person who多余。Has come改为is coming。

Every day you go to sleep later than 12 p.m. and get up before 6 a.m. You have your own child, however, you have no time to take care of him (her). Classroom ---- Office ---- Dining room, there’s hardly any time left for you to cook for the family. It often happens, after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading. But you always make sure every student has a good meal. As the students are far from home, you act like mother and father!

请问这一段的you是指第一最后的our teachers吗?是的话, Child、him、her、mother、father都应改成复数。after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading,吃完午餐去晚读?but这一句说老师总要确信学生吃得好,有点不确实际吧。

People often say, if a teacher wants to give students a bowl of water, he (she) needs at least a bucket of water. Factually, that’s far richer than a bucket of water! You yourself are a running stream, even a river! You are skillful to pass on unbelievable wonderful methods to your students so that you are sure your students have known the way to fetch water and that they have also become a scream or a river! You are not “a mountain to recite texts (having too much reciting burden for students)”, and you are never “the sea to do exercises (having too much homework)”! So as to avoid becoming “the mountain” or “the sea”, no one knows how much work you have done quietly and industriously. No one has any idea how much time and energy is spent dealing with school daily trivialities!

Factually改为Actually。Richer改为more。这里的water是指知识吧,老师传授知识,但后面的比喻恰当否?即老师自己是知识的小溪、河流,最后学生也获取知识变成知识的小溪或河流。Homework已经包括reciting texts了吧,老师布置作业,并不是“老师是(you are)作业(sea)”,去掉avoid后面的becoming。最后一句强调太过了(no one,any),令人觉得夸张了点,整篇文章也有这种感觉。

In eyes of school authorities, you are one of able staff; in the students’ mind, you are an excellent kind-hearted mother and a stern father; to your dear parents, you are a good child. Seeing big smiles on your face, no one believes that you have borne too much burden, pressure and responsibility! When you fall ill, even you have been sick for months and years, you can hardly spare any time to go to see a doctor! When your child begs you to attend the school parents’ meeting, you, a teacher, have to ask other family members to go instead of you! What’s more, the moment your parent is passing away, you have no chance to see him/ her for the last time!

in the students’ mind改为in the mind of the students. Mother/father/child的单复数问题。为什么开家长会就要当老师的家属去呢?最后一句的论据也不普遍。

Feelings are on the left side while love is on the right, and you are walking in the middle of the road! Every day you sow or plant, you go all out to cultivate your young students, without wishing for any repayment!

第一句不明白要表达什么内容。Every day you sow or plan / and look after可删掉。Without改为not。

Though in most cases there’re no signs left in the sky, we know, you have flown across in the sky for your kids!

这句如何理解?绿叶在天上飞过?for kids什么呢?

The career of flowers is nice. The fruits are sweet and noble. You, indeed, are willing to be a green leaf. You simply remember one sentence: green leaves can set off red flowers and highlight the beauty!
删掉Red。
总的来说,描写一群踏踏实实的奉献者,要平实的语言为好,不宜用空洞、夸张、过于肯定或否定的议论。最好用例子来说明。论据除了真实外,也要能阐述主题。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-28 10:25:48 | 显示全部楼层
It's so pleased to have received kind attention.

  achieve great achievements重复罗嗦了,建议achieve改为……

譬如
dream a nice dream
smile a sweet smile

e.g.
die, death, dream, live, life
  She dreamed a bad dream last night.
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-28 11:07:39 | 显示全部楼层

Every day you go to sleep later than 12 p.m. and get up before 6 a.m. You have your own child, however, you have no time to take care of him (her). Classroom ---- Office ---- Dining room, there’s hardly any time left for you to cook for the family. It often happens, after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading. But you always make sure every student has a good meal. As the students are far from home, you act like mother and father!

请问这一段的you是指第一最后的our teachers吗?是的话, Child、him、her、mother、father都应改成复数。after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading,吃完午餐去晚读?but这一句说老师总要确信学生吃得好,有点不确实际吧。

“you”here is one person for sure. “you”is only one who represents a common teacher. There are millions of teachers like “you”. Whom I'd like to show respect to is one of the excellent.
  Thus, it's better not to add "s" to any of the following words : Child、him、her、mother、father (In English here the punctuation " 、"  better be changed into " , " ).

“after having the remains of the lunch meal, your own child goes to attend evening reading,吃完午餐去晚读?”,
   no, I never meant "lunch" ------- the remains of a meal 吃剩下的饭, or leftover, or rechauffe, or Warmed leftover food
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发表于 2007-10-29 00:15:43 | 显示全部楼层
引用第10楼涂于德于2007-10-28 10:25发表的 :
achieve great achievements重复罗嗦了,建议achieve改为……

譬如
dream a nice dream
smile a sweet smile

e.g.
die, death, dream, live, life
  She dreamed a bad dream last night.


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你举的例子和你文章的不同,例子是一个单词作不同词性使用,单词不长的话看上去不会很罗嗦。
你可以在google搜索一下“achieve great achievements”,外国人根本不用,中国的也只有几个例子,老师也不推荐这样用的,你看到contribute great contribution to又有什么看法呢 。一般是万能动词+名词的形式,中文直接用动词翻译,详细的区别可看一下我的一篇读后感提到的第2点,推销一下,哈哈。
http://www.readfree.net/bbs/read-htm-tid-4527428.html
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-10-29 23:16:58 | 显示全部楼层
Thank the 12th fl..
Harmonious atmosphere here.
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发表于 2008-1-2 01:14:23 | 显示全部楼层
既然是鼓励原创,那么“原创非首发不评分”这项版规,是否可以酌情放宽?

我可以理解这条版规的目的在于避免不必要的争端,但是现在发帖灌水有财富,原创(即使不是首发)却得到这样的对待。如果放宽一下的话,是否能使版友们的热情更加高涨?
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