shxl 发表于 2009-10-29 23:57:48

引用第32楼josephe于2009-10-22 21:34发表的 :


平均一年一篇应该是可以达到的,不然还搞啥研究工作。

在生物医学这一块,一年一篇可以说是非常牛了,我所知道的长江学者,在卫生部重点实验室工作也达不到这个水平,在美国生物医学实验室专职研究工作的,一般也是2年发一篇sci。如果一年以第一作者发好几篇以实验为基础的sci,那就令人多想了...... 浙江大学贺海波重复使用数据、一稿多投、剽窃制造了多篇sci,这也是人尽皆知了

其它专业偶就不清楚,不过感觉也比较难,要不怎么发一篇奖励都是以万元来计算的

发sci许多杂志不收版面费,当然也有的,我们国内的一本SCIE周刊一篇就要5000多元,不过版面费单位报销一般是没问题的

如果想在cell上发表,呵呵,不用说国内院士来说也是奢望的,就对国外教授也是举行party来庆贺的事情

adoado1999 发表于 2009-11-4 14:56:08

学术世界的扭曲之厉害。没交版面费,发表收到应得的稿酬这都成“人咬狗”的新闻了,
默哀

louselice^_^ 发表于 2009-11-5 07:27:48

引用第42楼adoado1999于2009-11-04 14:56发表的 :
学术世界的扭曲之厉害。没交版面费,发表收到应得的稿酬这都成“人咬狗”的新闻了,
默哀

文章白发,杂志社怎么活?

云之惑 发表于 2009-11-5 13:28:26

不知国外的杂志是怎么一个运营模式~

我个人认为,来自政府和直接利益方的资金都将降低学术期刊原本所应具备的自由度和公信力~

lqhaaa 发表于 2009-11-9 22:24:18

一般来说,版面费是要交的

泪之梦 发表于 2009-11-17 10:42:40

俺发了一篇小文,没有收版面费

Barry 发表于 2009-11-18 12:30:50

一篇文章交过去,不久催款的单子就来了,不交么,担心发不了,那就交吧,有篇发表的文章在手,走到哪里都方便一些。

长歌-废墟 发表于 2009-11-20 14:05:52

我也快要发论文了,跟着各位学习一下不花钱的经验,我同学已经有花的了,虽然不多

goodman2008 发表于 2009-11-20 17:29:38

交了啊。。。

wdzwdz518 发表于 2009-11-20 23:01:14

哎,怎么学到我那专业!

wangqifang 发表于 2009-12-4 23:02:54

哎 不收钱的期刊很少了

wangqifang 发表于 2009-12-4 23:12:11

就我所学习的文科专业来看,文章写得好,cssci一类的期刊也是不收版面费的,我有师姐投了一篇,那边说要一千,我师姐说算了,后来那边又把电话打过来说,不要你钱了,给发!cssci的期刊。但是也有不少师兄师姐是花钱的,银子数目不等。
不过我周围也有同学是走导师的关系发的,也不需要银子。但是现在俺同学已经开始打听花钱的那种期刊了,据说现在价钱已经到了一万了,俺还在自己苦苦地挣扎之中。大家努力吧,好的文章终究会被赏识的!

xinghuit 发表于 2009-12-21 00:16:36

我发的八篇文章,得到稿费约三千多吧。在硕士阶段被录用的两篇文章(有一篇被转载),所得稿费一千多一点。

giftdreamer 发表于 2009-12-31 10:04:57

a 不用交钱 真有这种好事?

李不言 发表于 2010-1-4 21:35:19

我是教高中语文的,在核心期刊上发过一小篇,很受鼓舞,有些了十几篇,投出去都如石沉大海。。。呵呵,自嘲一下

云之惑 发表于 2010-2-2 08:37:15

Publish or perish in China——《nature》

看到篇文章,标题很醒目,很刺眼~

2010年1月14日,《自然》杂志网站刊登评论文章——《中国科研,不发表即灭亡》(Publish or perish in China),对中国的科研造假现象进行非常严肃的了评述,文章称:有人说,凑高影响期刊论文篇数的压力助长了中国的学术不端。

  文章提到造成中国最近发生的一系列重大学术造假事件的原因不仅包括中国的学术评价系统过于强调发表论文,同时急功近利,官僚干预学术活动,对造假者(包括牵涉有声望科学家的著名造假案例)缺乏严厉的制裁等等,同样助长了学术欺诈的蔓延。文章最后引述北京大学生命科学院院长饶毅的话说:“这样令人侧目的丑闻都没有得到应有的处理,那就是发出了一个非常错误的信号。”

原文网页格式链接:http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100112/full/463142a.html

Publish or perish in China

The pressure to rack up publications in high-impact journals could encourage misconduct, some say.

The latest in a string of high-profile academic fraud cases in China underscores the problems of an academic-evaluation system that places disproportionate emphasis on publications, critics say. Editors at the UK-based journal Acta Crystallographica Section E last month retracted 70 published crystal structures that they allege are fabrications by researchers at Jinggangshan University in Jiangxi province. Further retractions, the editors say, are likely.

Chinese universities often award cash prizes, housing benefits or other perks on the basis of high-profile publications, and the pressure to publish seems to be growing. A new study from Wuhan University, for instance, estimates that the market for dubious science-publishing activities, such as ghostwriting papers on nonexistent research, was of the order of 1 billion renminbi (US$150 million) in 2009 — five times the amount in 2007. In other studies, one in three researchers surveyed at major universities and research institutions admitted to committing plagiarism, falsification or fabrication of data.

"The extent of the misconduct is disturbing," says Nicholas Steneck, director of the Research Ethics and Integrity Program at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. "It highlights the challenges China faces as it struggles to rapidly improve the research capacity of a very large system — with significant variations in quality — to be a world-class player in science."

Two weeks ago, reacting to the retractions of the crystallography papers, Jinggangshang University fired the correspondent authors, Zhong Hua and Liu Tao. It is unclear whether their co-authors, who include researchers from other institutions in China, will also be investigated.

“Counting the number of publications becomes the norm.”

Under pressure: one-third of researchers surveyed in China admit to plagiarism, falsification or fabrication of data.


The journal's editors say that the discrepancies came to light during tests of software designed to flag possible errors and unusual chemical features, such as abnormal distances between atoms. The software identified a large number of crystal structures that didn't make sense chemically; further checking, the editors say, suggests that the authors simply changed one or more atoms of an existing compound of known structure, then presented that structure as new. Zhong and Liu could not be reached for comment.

Editors at the journal are now checking the authenticity of other published crystal structures, including all submissions from Jinggangshan University.

Half of the 200,000-odd crystal structures published by the journal during the past five years have come from China. William Harrison, a chemist at the University of Aberdeen, UK, who is one of three section editors for the journal, would not discuss the ongoing investigation but says that the generation of large numbers of structures by one group would not necessarily raise questions, because diffractometers can easily collect a couple of data sets a day. "In terms of papers submitted to Acta E, the vast majority coming from China are correctly determined structures, and they make a valuable contribution to science," he says.

Nevertheless, the Wuhan University study suggests that misconduct could be widespread in many fields. The team, led by computer scientist Shen Yang, used website analyses and onsite investigations to identify a wide range of dubious publishing activities. These include ghostwriting theses and academic papers on fictional research, bypassing peer-review for payment, and forging copies of legitimate Chinese or international journals.

The researchers analysed the most popular 800 websites involved in such activities — which together rack up 210,000 hits a day — and found that the cost of each transaction is typically 600–12,000 renminbi. Three-quarters of the demand comes from universities and institutions, says Shen. "There is a massive production chain for the entire publishing process," he says.

Concerned by such trends, China's science ministry commissioned a survey of researchers, the results of which remain under wraps. However, several sources revealed to Nature that roughly one-third of more than 6,000 surveyed across six top institutions admitted to plagiarism, falsification or fabrication. Many blamed the culture of jigong jinli — seeking quick success and short-term gain — as the top reason for such practices, says Zeng Guopin, director of the Institute of Science Technology and Society at Tsinghua University in Beijing who was involved in running the survey.

The second most-cited cause is bureaucratic interference in academic activities in China. Most academic evaluation — from staff employment and job promotion to funding allocation — is carried out by bureaucrats who are not experts in the field in question, says Fang Shimin, a US-trained biochemist who runs a website called 'New Threads' that exposes research misconduct in China. "When that happens, counting the number of publications, rather than assessing the quality of research, becomes the norm of evaluation," he says.

Cao Nanyan, a colleague of Zeng's at Tsinghua, conducted a similar survey commissioned by the Beijing municipality, which surveyed 2,000 researchers from 10 universities and research institutions. It, too, found that roughly one-third of respondents admitted to illegitimate practices.

To critics such as Rao Yi, dean of the life-science school at Peking University in Beijing, the lack of severe sanctions for fraudsters, even in high-profile cases, also contributes to rampant academic fraud. Many researchers criticize the fact that Chen Jin, a former researcher at Shanghai Jiao Tong University who is accused of falsely claiming to have developed a series of digital signal-processing chips, was fired with no other repercussions. Meanwhile, others involved in the scandal have gone unpunished.

"You send out a very wrong signal when such high-profile cases are not dealt with properly," says Rao.

Author:Jane Qiu

参考翻译:

中国科研,不发表即灭亡

  有人说,凑高影响期刊论文篇数的压力助长了中国的学术不端。

  英国《自然》463, 142-143 (2010)
  记者:Jane Qiu
  翻译:clark


在中国一系列引人注目的学术造假案件中,最近的一起更凸显了一个过度强调发表的学术评价体系的问题,批评人士这样说道。上个月,英国的《结晶学报(E)》的编辑一次性撤消了70篇已经发表的晶体结构——编辑们断言这些晶体结构是江西省井冈山大学的研究人员编造出来的。而且以后可能还会有更多的撤消。



对于那些能吸引眼球的发表,中国大学经常给与现金奖励,住房优惠和其他外快;而发表的压力也是与日俱增。比如,武汉大学的一项最新研究估计,诸如找枪手炮制论文等买卖论文与经营非法学术期刊活动仅在2009年市值已达十亿,五倍于2007年的数字。在其他的研究中,来自主要大学和研究机构的被调查研究人员有三分之一承认有过剽窃、篡改、编造数据的行为。



“学术不端已经到了令人不安的程度,”安阿堡的密西根大学研究伦理与诚信项目的负责人Nicholas Steneck说:“这集中体现了中国在争取迅速地提高研究地位,试图成为科学界世界级选手的过程中所面临的挑战。而在中国这样一个巨大的研究体系当中,研究质量自然是良莠不齐的……”



作为对结晶学论文被撤消的回应,两周前井冈山大学开除了论文的两位通讯作者—钟华和刘涛。现在还不清楚他们的共同作者,其中包括来自中国其他研究机构的研究人员,是否会被调查。



这份期刊的编辑说,在测试一款用来标识潜在错误和罕见化学结构(比如,原子间不正常的距离)的软件时,这些论文露出了马脚。这款软件确认了大量在化学上根本说不过去的晶体结构。在进一步的核实表明,编辑说,论文的作者仅仅置换了现存化合物已知结构中一两个原子的位置,就把它们作为新的结构提交了。现在无法联络到钟华和刘涛来听取他们的申诉。



期刊的编辑们正在检查其他已经发表的晶体结构的真实性,包括所有来自井冈山大学的投稿。



在这份期刊过去五年所发表的所有二十万余种晶体结构中,一半来自中国。E卷的三名编辑之一,来自英国阿伯丁大学的化学家William Harrison不愿意讨论正在进行当中的调查,但他说由一个研究团队产生出大量晶体结构并不一定有问题,因为衍射仪一天很容易就可以收集几个数据集。“就投到E卷的论文来说,从中国来的大部分都是测定正确的结构,他们对科学做出了有价值的贡献”,他又说道。



但是,武汉大学的研究表明学术不端行为在很多领域都广泛传播。计算机专家沈阳所领导的小组运用网站分析和实地调查确定了一大批非法出版活动。其中包括枪手代写的文章和凭空捏造的论文,通过贿赂逃避评审以及干脆伪造合法出版的的中国期刊和国际期刊。



研究人员分析了干这些非法营生的最热门的800家网站——他们的点击量一天就能累积到二十一万次,发现每笔交易通常是六百到一万两千元人民币。沈阳说,其中四分之三的需求来自大学和研究机构,“整个出版过程就是一个巨大的产业链”。



出于对这种趋势的担心,中国科技部委托进行了一项针对研究人员的调查。虽然调查结果尚未公开,但有些来源对《自然》透露:超过6000名遍及六家顶级研究机构的被调查者当中大约三分之一的人承认有过剽窃、篡改和编造行为。参与这项调查的清华大学科技与社会研究所所长曾国平说,许多人将这些不端行为的首要原因归结为急功近利的文化。



第二个经常被提及的原因是,在中国学术活动受到官僚的干涉。大多数学术评估,从人员聘用、职称晋升到基金分配,都是由官僚完成的,而他们都不是相关领域的专家,方是民(方舟子)这样解释。方是民是一位曾在美国接受学术训练的生化专家,现在开办一个名为“新语丝”的网站,专门揭露中国的学术不端行为。“由于官僚把持,数论文的数目,而不是评价研究的质量,成了评估的常态,”方是民如是说。



曾国平在清华大学的同事曹南燕,由北京市政府委托也开展了一项相似的调查,调查了来自10所大学和研究机构的2000名研究人员。结果也发现在答复问卷的人中有三分之一承认有过违规的学术不端行为。



在北京大学生命学院院长饶毅这样的批评者看来,缺乏对造假者严厉的制裁措施,即使在引人瞩目的案件当中也付之阙如,是学术欺诈猖獗的原因之一。上海交通大学的一位前院长陈进曾被指控谎称制造出一系列的数字信号处理芯片,但除了被解聘以外没有任何其他后果。同时,卷入这件丑闻中的其他人员也是毫发未损依然如故。许多研究人员对这一事实进行了批评。



饶毅说:“这样令人侧目的丑闻都没有得到应有的处理,那就是发出了一个非常错误的信号。”

wuhan999999 发表于 2010-2-2 09:19:28

俺是跟着导师混,导师的论文有刊物约稿,然后导师下派给学生给他写,他署第一作者,俺们署名第二作者,也就不再交钱了。

imagedeng 发表于 2010-8-3 11:19:32

我这段时间投一篇CSSCI,3个版面5000,太贵了

陶梦 发表于 2010-8-5 08:48:32

有些学校不允许文科生以第二作者名义发文章。始作俑者南京大学就是这样,让人生恨啊。
当然,勤奋读书认真思考的人总会写出好文章,总能不要交片面费的。

zxg0931 发表于 2010-8-5 14:35:57

现在不收的确实很少了,好文章,我觉得凤毛麟角,大多数是垃圾,有些人说国外的刊物登载的文章质量好些,其实半斤八两,一期杂志基本是一个垃圾袋。能有一两篇言之有物的文章就已经很不错了。所以,登谁的基本一样,交钱跟不交钱不一样,这是现状,也是实情
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